Extra Credit: How to Handle the Why College/Why Academic Interest Essay with Lisa Marker-Robbins – College Bound Mentor Podcast #36
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College Bound Mentor Podcast Episode #36: Extra Credit: How to Handle the Why College/Why Academic Interest Essay with Lisa Marker-Robbins
Some of the trickiest essays to pin down on college applications are the Why College/Why Academic Interest essays. This has never been more true than today, so we wanted to bring back our interview with special guest Lisa Marker-Robbins, Founder of Flourish Coaching, who’s helped over 4,000 high school students and young adults gain the insight, experiences, and confidence they need to successfully embark on their post-high school path. She busts some myths about the Why College/Why Academic Interest essays, reveals some findings of her study of the Top 50 public universities and their admissions practices, and shares her best advice for students who truly don’t know what to major in. This episode covers everything from college essays to the top schools. Here’s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:
- Should you talk about what you love about the school?
- What did Lisa learn from her study of the Top 50 public universities?
- Should you name-drop everyone you know who went there?
- What should students do if they don’t know what they want to major in?
- When do we figure out what we want to do in life?
Get Lisa’s resources at FlourishCoachingCo.com/Majors and check out her College and Career Clarity podcast, and Subscribe to College Bound Mentor on your favorite podcast platform and learn more at CollegeBoundMentor.com
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Show Notes
- Extra Credit: How to Handle the Why College/Why Academic Interest Essay with Lisa Marker-Robbins
- [0:19] Welcome to College Bound Mentor
- [0:27] Lisa Bleich, Abby Power, Stefanie Forman
- [0:33] Subscribe to College Bound Mentor on your favorite podcast platform and learn more at CollegeBoundMentor.com
- [0:46] Get Lisa’s resources at FlourishCoachingCo.com/Majors and check out her College and Career Clarity podcast
- [1:38] How to Perfect the Personal Statement – By Not Making It Perfect! – College Bound Mentor Podcast #4
- [1:51] Should you talk about what you love about the school?
- [3:09] Should you name-drop everyone you know who went there?
- [10:12] What did Lisa learn from her study of the Top 50 public universities?
- [17:12] What should students do if they don’t know what they want to major in?
- [27:52] What final thoughts does Lisa have?
- [28:38] Get Lisa’s resources at FlourishCoachingCo.com/Majors and check out her College and Career Clarity podcast
- [29:39] Subscribe to College Bound Mentor on your favorite podcast platform and learn more at CollegeBoundMentor.com
- Theme Song: “Happy Optimistic Americana” by BDKSonic
What is the College Bound Mentor podcast?
Lisa, Abby, and Stefanie know college. They also know students. With over 30 years combined experience mentoring young people, they’ll show you why understanding yourself is the key to finding the right college. Each episode, hear trends, case studies, and interviews with students who have gone through it all – giving you valuable insight to survive the college application process and beyond. Hosted by Lisa Bleich, Abby Power, and Stefanie Forman, Partners of College Bound Mentor.
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Lisa Marker-Robbins 0:01
Your passions are going to switch over time, so don’t, don’t put all this pressure on like I’m figuring out my forever job, right?
Lisa Bleich 0:08
Hey CBMers, welcome back to College Bound Mentor, where we help you survive the college application process and beyond. We’re your co-hosts, Lisa, Abby, and Stefanie, and I don’t know about you, but we are deep in the why college? Why major essay, reviews, brainstorming, finalization right now, it’s always a popular essay and it’s always a challenging essay. So we are super excited to bring back Lisa Marker-Robbins, a conversation we had about how to tackle this very important essay. And so now we want to turn and welcome to our guest, Lisa Marker-Robbins, the CEO of Flourish Consulting and host of College and Career Clarity. We’re going to talk about how schools admit by major together, and we’re also going to dispel some common myths about the why College, why major essay. First of all, welcome. Thank you so much for joining us.
Lisa Marker-Robbins 1:15
Well, thanks for having me. I love your all new podcast. Huge fan already. So you guys have
Lisa Bleich 1:23
yours as well. You have you’ve got a lot more experience on us, so we’re learning from you, which is really good. So how do you feel about going over some Myths and Truths About how to approach these essays, some do’s and don’ts? Like episode,
Lisa Marker-Robbins 1:39
yeah, absolutely. That was a fantastic episode that I listened to, that you already had. So, yeah, let’s do it
Lisa Bleich 1:46
well. Thank you. All right, so one of the first myths is to talk about how much you love the school and extol its every virtue. No, why not? Isn’t that what they want to hear, how great the school is
Lisa Marker-Robbins 2:01
not at all. So, you know, I do advise the students that I work with and helping them get clear on their college major and their future career. You know, you’re showing alignment. So if there’s something the school offers that is unique in their program, then that’s okay to talk about the school, like, how they have it structured. You know, sports management sometimes can be in the education school, it can be in the business school. It can be in a variety of places. And so you might be looking for one that is, well, I’m choosing your school because you have this house in that particular college or division of the university. So in that regard, it’s okay, you know, if they have a special twist on the major, but not about the campus or the location or the weather or any of that stuff
Lisa Bleich 2:53
about everything, about the beautiful campus, the prestige, the reputation location. So it sounds just like
Lisa Marker-Robbins 3:00
exactly they already know that they’re great. So we’re looking for where that alignment is right between who you are and what they
Lisa Bleich 3:07
offer. Right? I always say, if it sounds like a brochure, then it’s you gotta Nix it.
Lisa Marker-Robbins 3:12
It’s not gonna. Fantastic advice. Yes,
Lisa Bleich 3:15
how about name dropping everyone you know who went there?
Lisa Marker-Robbins 3:20
Absolutely not. No, this is about you, and this is about alignment, right? So you are trying to show them that you demonstrate that you belong, and frankly, like, maybe you don’t belong. I mean, maybe you’ll discover through the process that that’s not the best fit, because every program is a little different. Every major on every campus is a little different. So just think of like we’re looking it’s like a Venn diagram. And so it’s what you’ve done in your past that informs your future choices of where you want to go and what you want to do and what they offer. And so where those two things intersect, and that doesn’t have anything to do with any alum or any notable graduate that you may know of, because we get so little of their attention. You got to focus on you. Yeah?
Stefanie Forman 4:13
I love that. The Venn diagram, that’s, that’s a really great visual,
Lisa Marker-Robbins 4:16
yeah, I think it helps, like, even just do the exercise like that would be a piece of advice for families who are going through this process right now, like, sit down with your kid and do the two circles, like, what do they offer related to this major? Because we’re writing the why this major essay, which is a very common and very popular one on the part of the colleges. And then, where is that alignment? Make your list and then cross populate it. That’s what you need to be talking about. Yeah,
Lisa Bleich 4:45
really, really good advice. How about picking an easier major when you really want something else, because it will be less competitive and you can always transfer later,
Lisa Marker-Robbins 4:57
absolutely not again. I. That backfires more often than not, particularly if you know, I think who we hear try to say like that would be a good strategy. A lot of times are the kids who are going after capped capacity majors, popular majors, right? So I want computer science, or I want nursing, or I want, you know, one that has, like, studio space to it. So maybe it’s architecture, performing arts majors, anything that has field experiences, clinical hours, performance hours, or is a very popular major, and sometimes that’s by college. You know, popular majors computer science, yes, is popular everywhere. But there are some majors that are just very popular on a particular campus, because they’re really, really good at that, right? And so if you try to go in as a social work major to become a computer scientist, likely to backfire on you, and they’re going to see right through it, because here’s the deal, while they might let you into social work, that capped capacity major is very limited, and there are going to be very few kids who can crack that door once they’re on campus and they are looking at your activities list, the classes that you’ve taken in high school. And that’s another place where we’re looking for alignment. We already talked about like alignment between what you’ve done and what they offer now. They’re looking for alignment and what you say you’re going to major in, and what you’re going to do with it, and the classes you’ve taken and the extracurriculars that you have.
Lisa Bleich 6:38
The only time that we have seen that not necessarily that particular strategy work, but for example, if somebody you mentioned computer science, computer science is almost always an impacted major, particularly for schools that have either as it’s in the School of Engineering, or if it’s in the School of Computer a specific computer science school. However, sometimes if it’s in the School of Arts and Sciences, and you’re getting admitted to the school of arts and sciences, then that could be a strategy if you don’t have everything to support the engineering or the computer science major to do it in the School of Arts and Sciences, because there’s a little bit more leeway. You can always get into a computer science major if you’re in arts and sciences. So it’s important to know the school and how they admit to the
Lisa Marker-Robbins 7:21
I agree with that it’s like the and that could be, this goes back to like, do they offer something uniquely? Because commonly, computer science is going to be in the School of Engineering, right? Or if they have just a computer division or school, it’s less common that it’s in the arts and sciences, but there’s a fair number of those out there, right? And so it could be like, right at liberal arts colleges, it’s gonna be, but, you know, I think of like Purdue, that’s not a great strategy there, even though that is in the engineering school, right? So it so that still can backfire. This is where you’ve got to get your feet on campus and you’ve got to talk to them. Like, I always preach, be a wise consumer. You guys listen to my podcast. You probably are sick of hearing me say, maybe people are too, but like, yes, you’re selling yourself to them, but they’re selling themselves to you. Be a wise consumer and ask the tough questions, right? So to your point, absolutely. Lisa, it’s what? Where’s that alignment? How does it work on that campus? Because it’s going to be different for every campus.
Lisa Bleich 8:28
How about saying you want to major in something that you have no background in to support your
Lisa Marker-Robbins 8:33
interests? Yeah, that. So I think this goes back to those capped capacity impacted majors, right? I know that it is going to be more important that you show that you’ve taken some action at those impacted majors, right? You are up against some really tough competition for a very limited number of spots. Remember, Andy Borst, he’s at Georgia now, but when he was at ui UC he had said to me, you know, these kiddos that are don’t know what they’re going to be majoring in. You know, they, if they’re at a school, they’re applying to a school that admits directly to the major incident impacted major then you’re up to tough competition. We could fill many times over a freshman class. There it happens to be, you know, computer science and business and psychology, right at their school. And so you’re going to look for that evidence now, if it’s a less popular, non impacted major, and you state that, you know, I’m interested in this, and I’m still figuring it out, like, be honest, don’t try to play the game about like, I’ve got it all figured out, and I’m going to apply to this major when you have no evidence of it, but like, just say, like, here’s why it interests me at this time. Talk truthfully about where you are at this point in time, but know that if it’s an impacted major, that is going to be harder when you don’t have evidence that you have this figured out or. If it’s a school that directly says we admit to major
Lisa Bleich 10:05
and so let’s talk about that. I know that you did a study of the top 50 major public universities and their admissions practices. Can you tell us what you discovered?
Lisa Marker-Robbins 10:15
Yeah, so it was really interesting. We invested a lot of time in early 2024 and we personally got with admissions at the state flagship university for all 50 states. And we’re like, you know, here’s the reality, there are more liberal arts colleges in the United States than there are research universities. However, over 70% of students who attend college go to a research university, not a liberal arts college. So we’re talking to the majority of people here, and we’re like, how do we support those clients, right? And so as we were looking at it, we just said to the schools, how does this work? Are you admitting directly to major? Are you admitting to some majors, but not others, or do you not admit to major at all? We didn’t just like send an email. We looked at the common app for the questions that they were asking. We sent emails. We also called to verify the information, because oftentimes, ladies, as all four of us know, we have got to ask that same question to maybe three different people before we get the right answer, right? This is true. Families, you should do the same thing. So, and we literally like multiple times, verified, verified, verified. And so what we found out was there were only four of the 50 state flagship universities don’t admit directly to major, so the rest of them. The biggest category was of the research universities, the state flagships. Biggest category was, we admit all students directly to a major. Then we wanted to find out for them, if you do that, then are there any majors impacted, majors that for which, like, if you didn’t, if you didn’t go ahead and apply as a high school senior, then you’re the doors closed, you can never change into that major. Or are there any majors for which it’s going to be hard to crack that door open? Like we might have a few people that switch, but it’s going to just be really hard. So the biggest category of schools was, yes, we admit directly to major. The second category, and this is true of Ohio State. I’m in Cincinnati, Ohio. Ohio State’s our state flagship, and they said, you know, it’s complicated. We have some majors for which you’re a pre major and others that you’re a direct admit. So this goes back to Lisa, what you said earlier about like, do your homework, and what I said about your PO wise consumer, ask the questions you got to understand this stuff. But there were only just a few four schools that said, we don’t admit to major. You literally come into the university. We’re going to support you and figure it out. But even some of those schools still said, tell us what your intent they all said, What’s your intended major? Right? They expect students to have some semblance that they’ve done some amount of work to say, like, well, I have some intention here, but I’m not ready to go all in yet.
Lisa Bleich 13:12
I think it. I think that’s really amazing information for families to have. But I also want to underscore that for majors, like, as you mentioned, nursing, anything engineering, anything that’s something that you need to get a prerequisite, core classes. It’s really hard to switch within your majors. But usually, if you’re in Arts and Sciences, or you’re something where the you have a general educational requirement, then you do have a little bit of leeway to switch your major. Typically, you you will declare it by the end of your sophomore year. So it’s not impossible, but don’t go in with the expectation that that’s going to happen. And if you think, for example, nursing is one that’s often very competitive, there are a number of schools that have pre nursing. And so what that means is, if you take the prerequisite classes and you get a certain GPA, then you will be able to continue with the nursing and as you brought up, Lisa, one of the biggest things they have to think about, I was talking to somebody admissions person at WashU, and they were saying that even though we we do admit by school, but we recognize that students are going to change their major. If we have X amount of pre med students, they say they’re interested in pre med, even though we know that’s not a major. But there are a series of prerequisite classes that have to be taken in order to be a pre med, you know, to go into medical school. So they know that if they have too many pre meds, then they’re not going to have enough of the introductory, you know, classes for the labs and the bio and chem and physics and all the classes that a pre med student would have to take, even if they’re a psychology major or a history major or a fine arts major, they still have to provide those and have enough classes to be able to do it. So that’s part of the research. And and I think that’s also what Andy, from you see, said, was that they have to be able to support the majors that students want to pursue. And that’s a big part of why it’s it seems like it’s very limited, and that it’s very,
Lisa Marker-Robbins 15:14
you know, I got into a very so I was at iuca in Connecticut back in May at the conference, and I was talking to, I went to a session, and the Tulane admissions rep was part of a panel, and it was a great session. And it was on this topic, right? And then I was in their common app, and because she she said, the heart at Tulane is and their process is, you are admitted to Tulane. You are not admitted to a major. You cannot go into a major until sophomore year. But the common app said, What is your intended major? What is your second choice major? What minor might you be thinking of? And I thought that’s a lot of questions to ask if they’re that wholeheartedly into you don’t need to know your path. So then I got with admissions, and we had a fantastic conversation, but they just said, like, this is enrollment management. I is the word that we know it’s called, but our listeners might not know, right? And so, do we have enough professors? Can Do we have enough sections of these classes so that you can get in and out in four years? And so there it will, that intention does affect things, even though it’s not a commitment. But, you know, ask the questions you brought up a great point, Lisa, about pre you know, pre nursing, there’s a lot of pre nursing right? Then ask them, how many students get admitted to pre nursing, and then how many will go on? I think that’s the that’s as the consumer question is, yes, I could be successful in pre nursing, but will everybody who’s successful be able to go on to nursing? And most of the time, the answer is going to be no, but you want to know like, Okay, what were, what was the GPA, or the the grades or the experiences of those who were able to go on to nursing, or any other pre major? Right? Ask the questions, yeah, pre business is another big one. Absolutely yes.
Stefanie Forman 17:06
Lisa, other Lisa and I were there. We were at that same panel, and we Yeah. Love the panel, so helpful. So I would love to hear your advice on this one with all the focus on students who declaring majors. How about the students who really have no idea what they want to major in? And it doesn’t mean that they’re not interested or they don’t have passions, but, you know, they just, I mean, you know, at our age, we’re still figuring out the things that we love. So what do you recommend to those students who just truly don’t know at this point,
Lisa Marker-Robbins 17:39
you’ve got to create some time to do the work. That’s the first thing we’re all busy. You know, my youngest just graduated from college in the spring, and so thank you. I got a pay raise, right? We can all appreciate that pay raise. First of all, your passions are going to switch over time, so don’t, don’t put all this pressure on like I’m figuring out my forever job right? Focus on taking the time to be intentional, which feels hard during this busy time, but to build self awareness and career awareness, I found with the students that we work with, we’ve done career coaching college major and career coaching for 4000 students. So this isn’t just like, Oh, I think this might work. Like, no, I’ve seen it work over 4000 times, right? I know that passions can wane and grow. Like, I’m very passionate about gluten free cooking, because I have to be gluten free and coming up with great recipes at my age, I was not at all interested that in my teens. So you don’t have to have I think, like, find your passion. That’s a lie, and that’s overwhelming. I think when we tell students, I saw in a Facebook group that we’re all in, I saw somebody say the other day, like, how could we expect a 16 or 17 year old to know what they’re going to do with the rest of their lives? Well, that’s the problem. We’re not asking anybody to know what they’re going to do with the rest of their lives is taking an educated and informed, wise first step into your career, and it will develop over your lifetime. But if we do so out of awareness of aptitudes, wiring and knowledge of careers, then we’re far less likely to say, like, I’m the social worker who became the engineer. I mean, talk about a 180 right? So then the pivots, when you have you make informed choices that are rooted in who you are, become more like micro pivots in self development. So it’s not a forever decision. Don’t focus on, what am I passionate about? And that has to be my career. And finally, passion can grow with proficiency. So as we start to build our skills and we start to learn new things, then your passions are going to build as you become proficient and you become more confident. So don’t feel like I mean, how. Low you’re going into college, you’re going to college to learn some things you’re not supposed to have it all figured
Lisa Bleich 20:05
out, passions and interests and do things like that, right? Yeah, I love that. Passion grows into proficiency. I think it’s our proficiency grows a passion, which is something that’s so true, is that 10,000 hours, the better you get at something, the more you like it. And how many students have said, you know, I was really bad at this particular class, and then I worked really hard, and I went in for extra help, and I all of a sudden I really loved the class, because then it became really interesting to me. The other thing I would just as a follow up to that, I had a student who was very always her whole life, she’d been very stemmy, very interested in math. Thought she initially wanted to major in math, but then she also started taking political science classes. She took AP psych, I’m sorry, AP gopo. She worked on a campaign, and then she was really interested in how to use analytics towards a political modeling, if you will. So she ended up going to University of Chicago because she thought she wanted to combine those two areas, applied math and political science. But after her first year at University of Chicago, she realized that, you know what, I really want to do engineering. I don’t really want I really am more of an engineer, more of a stem girl. So she ended up transferring, and she’ll go to start and Dartmouth in the fall. But she it was, it took her a while she she had that interest in STEM, and it got a little bit sidetracked, and then she came back to it. So it can work in a lot of different ways. As far as that goes.
Lisa Marker-Robbins 21:32
Well, you know, I do think, as you share, that when I’m working with students, we have them take the Berkman personality assessment. There are other personality assessments. I do think you get what you pay for. So be wary of like something that’s free on the internet that tells you to go be a, you know, a zookeeper, but to look at those and then that’s a starting point. But I think informational interviews and job shadows are crucial in building the career awareness piece, right? So had what I get curious, and we don’t need to dissect the whole thing. But, like, did that young lady, like, did she job shadow some engineers and talk to them about their jobs and different engineering jobs? Does she talk to people who were doing the, you know, this analytical piece that she thought she might want to do? I think sometimes we students are just going, like, oh, that sounds fun and interesting. And there is a little bit of alignment, like, I could tell you right now, if all the hats that I wear professionally would go away tomorrow and I had to totally reinvent myself, hopefully not at 55 I can list for you some jobs that I’m like, I think I could be really good. I could become proficient and more passionate about that, and I think it would align with who I am. You’re making a first step out of many good steps, but at some point you have to make a decision.
Abby Power 22:54
Yeah, I like looking at it as a first step. It’s a lot less overwhelming.
Lisa Marker-Robbins 23:00
I mean, is that the truth even for us as adults, like, I’m sure a lot of your listeners are parents, just like my listeners in my podcast. You know, if somebody’s like, Oh, I’m on a weight loss journey and they want to lose 50 pounds, that first step of like, getting the app or signing up for, you know, the training or cutting out sugar, probably feels really big too for any of us as human beings, that forever only focusing on the very end and all the things you need to do and all the things you need to know, it will undermine all of our success.
Lisa Bleich 23:33
Agreed. Yeah,
Lisa Bleich 23:37
it’s funny, because when I was in school, I couldn’t decide on a major. So I knew I liked to speak French, and I knew I liked to read and I liked history, so I picked European cultural studies because it got, I got to do all of those things. And then my youngest daughter, who’s probably the most like me professionally, my other two were a little bit more focused. She’s also still. She’s not still, she’s 24 almost 25 and she is still figuring herself out and trying to understand the things that she likes to do. And she also has a lot of interest, but no clear passion. So I’ve been telling her a lot proficiency leads to passion, but she’s so she’s working on it. So it’s just interesting, because sometimes your career is something that’s introduced, like, it takes a lot of different things that you bring together, and it’s the combination of those things, which is probably why we all like this profession, because it pulls together the combination of all the things that we like to do. But we didn’t necessarily know it was a profession when we when we set out upon graduation.
Lisa Marker-Robbins 24:39
I also think, like, if you look back, so if teens would talk to older people who have, you know, have some experience, or like, how we all have landed where we have, you’ll see common threads. You know, I was a classroom teacher back in 1991 like, that’s how I started my career. I loved, I’ve always loved. Loved working with teenagers, even when I was barely out of being a teenager. I loved making lesson plans and making things exciting and helping people learn and develop themselves, right? So while what I do now is very vastly different, and oh my word, the internet barely existed back when I started and now I have an online course on the internet, in a podcast like, I couldn’t have known what the possibilities were, but there are common threads, and I let that inspire teenagers. Like we all can see things in ourselves that have pulled all the way through. And, you know, I think Lisa, even the example you just use like there. There are some common threads there, right? Yeah,
Abby Power 25:44
our youngest son is a junior in college. He’s got a an internship in finance this summer. He has no idea what he wants to do, but he has this general idea he grew up playing chess that he just likes thinking about strategic things. You know, he can’t articulate it really. He has no idea how that applies to business. He knows he doesn’t want to do finance, but he’s taking the opportunity to figure out the small parts of what he’s doing this summer that really kind of interest him and floated his boat and make him excited. So I think the other nice thing to do is to have an open mind and try different things, and then try, you know, try to identify, be very, you know, very thoughtful about identifying what parts of what you’re doing you really like. Same with classes. I mean, there might be some parts of your math class or your bio class that you really enjoy and some you don’t, but it all kind of, can put the pieces of the puzzle together to help you figure out what kinds of things you’re really good at and really, like,
Lisa Marker-Robbins 26:42
you know, Abby, when you talk about your son, I try to word it this way that I’ve seen it resonate with students. Like, what were the things? So I, if I were talking to your son, I would say, like, what were the things that you did in your internship this summer? Which, by the way, everybody internships are another experience that helps us get clear. But what were the get tos and the have tos? So a get to is the thing like, if I did that all day long, that day, it doesn’t exhaust me. I still have energy at the end of my work day. I’m excited, if that’s on my to do list for tomorrow, I’m excited to go to work. What are the have tos? Well, I own multiple businesses, and I have to get in the finance of those businesses sometime. And I hate it. That’s I have to it’s draining. Those are the things we tend to put off. So the as you’re like, he’s doing a great job with that experience and tracking those things. But if we turn it into like, get tos and have tos, fill me up, drain me that, I think that can help students as well.
Abby Power 27:40
Okay, I love that. And now I’m going to have him listen to this part of the podcast, because he’ll listen to you more than before
Lisa Marker-Robbins 27:46
he listened. Of course he will. And I’ll send my daughter over, right? You send your daughter this way. I’m that way. Perfect. Well,
Lisa Bleich 27:55
this was great. All right. Well, I feel like we could talk all day. Are there any like last pearls of wisdom that you want to share with our listeners.
Lisa Marker-Robbins 28:05
Carve out the time to do the work you’ve got to and I think too, when when our teens are still in our house, or your young adults still in your home, it’s a time where you can support them the most before they’re out in the wild without you and you’re not on a college campus. So whatever, however old your child is, it’s not too late, but it’s going to tight, take time and intention. And if you’re in that spot of trying to still figure it out and even where you go to college, like I we’re giving away that template, that email template that we were sending like that was directing us every time we reached out to one of those 50 colleges, and we were asking the questions of like, how do you admit students, and what are the majors we should be concerned about? If we don’t declare it early, we’re giving that away. And your listeners can have it too at Florida coaching co.com forward slash majors. So you guys can put it in the show notes, but flourish coaching COCOM forward slash majors, you can download the spreadsheet of all 50 states and what we found from them. So we’re sharing our data, and we’re sharing how, as a wise consumer a family, you can ask the same questions no matter where your students going, liberal arts. Liberal arts colleges do admit students to the major even though they’re still flat, they’re more flexible than a university ask the questions we’re giving you a tool to be able to do it.
Lisa Bleich 29:32
That’s great. And we’ll also have why College, why major worksheet available for students to download as well. Well. Thank you resources. Yes, great for you. So thank you so much for coming on College Bound Mentor. And thank you, CBMers, for tuning in. To catch more episodes of College Bound Mentor, make sure to Follow or Subscribe on your favorite podcast platform and tell a fellow parent or student about the podcast. Visit CollegeBoundMentor.com Until next time, you got this!